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i'm not the most well versed in survival shows though i've watched a few in my time BUT i'm going to try and write where i think seventeen would place if they were all to compete in a survival show, based on numerous factors. if for some reason you get offended by me making observations based on reality and then correlating it to this i don't know what to tell you (i don't think any of them would be totally nugu though :D). this is very hard to work out though so obviously this is just my opinion and doesn't really matter since it's a hypothetical situation LMAO. also 13-1 isn't their exact placing, they would be spread out from the first half to who actually gets in the group - i'm not sure how to explain it.

also, for fun, i'm gonna add a song i'd either like to see them perform for their evaluation in episode 1/2 or one i can imagine them getting (although i do like all these songs). i know in evaluations trainees are often set up but i'm not doing that here lmao. if the song doesn't have a choreo then idk they can do original choreo. lots of these would also probably be in groups with other trainees, i'm not gonna make any of the svt members be in the same groups though in order to shake it up a lil.

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(updated when there is new(ly found) info. last update: 14th december 2024)

a masterlist of seventeen's friendships with other idols. in some cases, these won't be confirmed but like through the 'severity' of an interaction or the reoccurrence. we also don't know if they're friends with all these people anymore but like well whatever. i was going to add sources but as we've established here, i cannot be bothered doing that much but if you search [seventeen member name] and then [idol that is listed as their friend] in google or twitter you'll be able to find something.

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this post is going to be a compilation of things i, as well as other people, have noticed being said or done in the background of seventeen videos when the members don't realise they're being filmed. i'm just very nosy. sorry (i will add to this when more things are noticed or i find past archival type stuff lmao).

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this post... isn't gonna be that cohesive. i don't know what i'm trying to say here like i'm trying to make a point and it's just not working so i'm gonna collate everything i think connects together and then see if it works.

as everyone is aware, vernon is very open about his fav artists, he's always sharing these whether it be through the spotify playlists each member used to put out during a comeback, his weverse or instagram stories or even the occasional vlive. however, maybe i'm just stuck in my own little vernon ult in a sea of every other member ult bubble but i feel like it isn't discussed enough how vernon's fav artists inspire him deeply and this is reflected so heavily in the music he works on, both solo and svt wise (i also wonder if this is the case with other members, where you can just tell they were inspired by a particular artist, and i just haven't noticed it because, once again, i'm stuck in my vernon ult bubble but whatever) and yada yada yada. OR, A THEORY: he specifically recommends artists/songs that are reminiscent of the songs he has been working on in order to tease, get the audience ready (although i don't know if he's that calculated and forward thinking wait no that sounds mean i'm sorry).

i'm gonna jot down some songs, his fav artists/songs he recommended around that period and connect the dots. i'm not gonna cover earlier stuff because not gonna lie his music taste wasn't as refined back then (i mean he was literally a twenty one pilots stan, and so was i in 2015, but jesus) as well as the point that he wasn't so involved in production in the early years. there's also some which i literally can't tell the influence so they won't be mentioned. the inner machinations of vernon's mind are an enigma.

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